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jack kennedy lowered taxes and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> first of all, i was there -- >> just one of several jab exchanges during last night's spirited vice-presidential debate. two men also sparred over judicial appointments, abortion, taxes, and unemployment. the polls split on who won that debate. cbs news showed vice president biden won about 50% to congressman ryan's 31%. here in california, the margins a little narrower. >>> both joe biden and paul ryan got right back on the campaign trail hoping to build on any post debate momentum. cbs reporter danielle nottingham shows us how both sides are claiming victory. >> reporter: vice president joe biden continues to play offense in wisconsin friday. >> it's time romney and ryan and the republican congress take a pledge to the middle class people saying we're going to level the playing field. >> reporter: a day after a spirited vice-presidential debate. >> with all due respect that's a bunch malarkey. >> watch out, middle class, the tax bill is coming to you. >> reporter: both candidates headed back
jack kennedy lowered taxes and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> first of all, i was there -- >> just one of several jab exchanges during last night's spirited vice-presidential debate. two men also sparred over judicial appointments, abortion, taxes, and unemployment. the polls split on who won that debate. cbs news showed vice president biden won about 50% to congressman ryan's 31%. here in california, the margins a little narrower. >>>...
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. >>> jack kennedy lowered tax rates increased growth. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> joe biden and paul ryan locking horns in the only vice- presidential debate of 2012. violent's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 -- vice president's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 barb. >> here's randall pinkston are highlights from the clash in kentucky and results of who came out the winner. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >> reporter: the vice president and ryan clashed over the economy, taxes and medicare with the democrat often on the attack. >> and they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut. it's about time they take some responsibility. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a real recovery, and that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposin
. >>> jack kennedy lowered tax rates increased growth. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> joe biden and paul ryan locking horns in the only vice- presidential debate of 2012. violent's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 -- vice president's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 barb. >> here's randall pinkston are highlights from the clash in kentucky and results of who came out the winner. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no...
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the vice-presidential candidates revived lloyd bentsen's 1988 jack kennedy line one of many barbs traded by the candidate last night. >> here's randall pinkston with highlights and results of a poll on who came out the winner. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >> reporter: the vice president and ryan clashed over the economy, taxes and medicare with the democrat often on the attack. >> and they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut. it's about time they take some responsibility. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a real recovery, and that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposing. >> reporter: after several heated exchanges, ryan insinuated that president obama's performance last week was motivating the vice president. >> mr. vice pr
the vice-presidential candidates revived lloyd bentsen's 1988 jack kennedy line one of many barbs traded by the candidate last night. >> here's randall pinkston with highlights and results of a poll on who came out the winner. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing...
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jack kennedy lowered tax increase growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> chairman of the budget committee stood his ground. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> pressured on romney's plan to reform social security and medicare, ryan didn't back down. >> they haven't put a credible solution on the table. he'll tell you about vouchers. he'll say all these things to try to scare people. >> reporter: silenced the vice president, almost by connecting the president's jobs record to biden's hometown. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton pennsylvania. i'm from wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> do you know what it was the day you guys came in? it's 8.5%. >> yeah. >> that's the way it's going all around america. >> trying to change the subject. he may have some cleanup of his own to do today on libya. he said last night the administration didn't know about additional security requests there
jack kennedy lowered tax increase growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> chairman of the budget committee stood his ground. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> pressured on romney's plan to reform social security and medicare, ryan didn't back down. >> they haven't put a credible solution on the table. he'll tell you about vouchers. he'll say all these things to try to...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> i thought it was rude. >> he would have control it a little better it might have helped him. >> new questions after "time" magazine published these if i hadness photos. >> it bobbi kristina really engaged to whitney's godson. >> starts addressing cheating accusations. >> rumors began to swirl about him. he was a stripper. >> oprah candid with fergie about josh. >> i have to ask you a question. >> taylor swift on her kennedy boyfriend as this wild headline accuses her of two-timing. >> why hulk hogan's ex is crying in a wedding dress. >> then the half thif ton woman accused killing of her nephew. >> was she too obese to commit murder. >> they cut her out of her home. >> is the new dancing competition too harsh? >> now from hole we'd "the weekend insider" is on. >> abby lee miller of dance moms fame is back and as tough as ever. that's aahead. >> thanks so much sfoerndifor s time with us. president obama and mitt romney prepare for the second crucial
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> i thought it was rude. >> he would have control it a little better it might have helped him. >> new questions after "time" magazine published these if i hadness photos. >> it bobbi kristina really engaged to whitney's godson. >> starts addressing cheating accusations. >> rumors began to swirl about him. he was a stripper. >> oprah candid with fergie about josh. >> i have to ask you a question....
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. >> kennedy -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: they delivered stark differences on domestic and foreign policy, including how to fix the economy. >> we are going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own life. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan went after to president obama for his response to the attack in libya. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terror attack. >> you are jeopardizing the program changing from a guaranteed ben >> reporter: more heated than the first presidential -- debate. biden often laughed at right ran's arguments. >> joe biden understood he had to do what president obama failed to do last week. >> reporter: with the race still tight both president obama and mitt romney watched closely. >> the president: i thought joe biden was terrific. i could
. >> kennedy -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: they delivered stark differences on domestic and foreign policy, including how to fix the economy. >> we are going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own life. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax....
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. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and tax cuts and auto bailout and those are big issues that got really heated between joe biden and paul ryan at last night's vice presidential debate so i immediately thoughthe person i would have to call on this to fact check it would be christine romans and she was available. thank you. so here's the deal. it just stands to reason that they both seem to say something with such confirmation in their voices and it's hard to say how this can be different. >> it's politics, my friend. talk taxes because i keep hearing this 20% across the board tax cut and then i hear the counterclaim, you can't pay for that. the math doesn't work. >> you can't make the math work. >> we have looked into this and the tax policy center says you can't make the math work. paul ryan's claim that you can cut it 20% across the board and keep it intact all of the while keeping it neutral and it says given the information available that we have about their plans is just not possible to cut that tax as much as
. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and tax cuts and auto bailout and those are big issues that got really heated between joe biden and paul ryan at last night's vice presidential debate so i immediately thoughthe person i would have to call on this to fact check it would be christine romans and she was available. thank you. so here's the deal. it just stands to reason that they both seem to say something with such confirmation...
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jack kennedy decreased tax growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> that's why these -- which if i'm not mistaken governor romney says we should continue. i may be mistaken. he changes his mind so often, i could be wrong. >> president obama has said he thought he was too polite in his debate with mitt romney. joe biden definitely did not play the polite card. biden offered up an aggressive attack on his challenger and roin delivered a spirit defense of conservative strategies proposed by the romney campaign. how several newspapers and w websites are describing the debate this morning. it was rapid fire. it was lively. simply put, it was hard to turn away from. i agree with that. maryland governor martin o'malley joins me now. good morning, mr. o'malley. how are you doing? >> i'm doing well, don. thank you. the vice president went out there and did what he needed to do and a lot of people are energized to see him on such an aggressive and needed calling out of the falsehoods and shell games that these other guys are proposing. >> i know you have som
jack kennedy decreased tax growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> that's why these -- which if i'm not mistaken governor romney says we should continue. i may be mistaken. he changes his mind so often, i could be wrong. >> president obama has said he thought he was too polite in his debate with mitt romney. joe biden definitely did not play the polite card. biden offered up an aggressive attack on his challenger and roin delivered a spirit defense of conservative strategies...
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jack kennedy increased -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> some of those punches landed on both sides last night. this is what's happening over my shoulder. construction workers are taking apart what was martha raditz's desk. they're taking down the lights, et cetera, as they break down and start clean iing up what wa done here last night. cnn snap poll of debate watchers taken right after the dough bait shows that paul ryan won, ahead of four points. if you look at the margin of error, which is plus or minus five points, that poll is right within the margin of error. so, basically, it was a tie. want to get right to cnn contributor erick erickson, editor in chief of redstate.com. nice to see you, erick. >> thank you. >> you heard some of the back and forth last night, some of the highlights, i would guess. both sides have proclaimed that their guy won. you heard it in the spin room. i've seen it on twitter. people coming to talk to me this morning, their person had the decisive victory. ultimately you're going after people who are undecid
jack kennedy increased -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> some of those punches landed on both sides last night. this is what's happening over my shoulder. construction workers are taking apart what was martha raditz's desk. they're taking down the lights, et cetera, as they break down and start clean iing up what wa done here last night. cnn snap poll of debate watchers taken right after the dough bait shows that paul ryan won, ahead of four points. if you look at the margin of...
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oh, now you are jack kennedy? >>. >> reporter: and the vice president was also responded to by paul ryan. >> i know that you are under duress to get your points across. >> but as the vice president knows words don't always come out of your mouth the right way. >> and i was embarrassed for the vice president, because there were 82 times that joe biden interrupted paul ryan. >> reporter: but also on substance. declaring victory for the running mate, romney seized on what his campaign has been called the biden's benghazi bungle. >> because the vice president directly contradicted the sworn testimony of state department officials. he's doubling down on denial. and we need to understand exactly what happened. >> reporter: but back in the spin room, the obama campaign manager jim massena said it was ryan who was unprepared. >> he got past paul ryan's index talking points and into the details, and that is what the american voters wanted. >> reporter: and ryan will campaign in battleground state of ohio and the other half
oh, now you are jack kennedy? >>. >> reporter: and the vice president was also responded to by paul ryan. >> i know that you are under duress to get your points across. >> but as the vice president knows words don't always come out of your mouth the right way. >> and i was embarrassed for the vice president, because there were 82 times that joe biden interrupted paul ryan. >> reporter: but also on substance. declaring victory for the running mate, romney...
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. >> jack kennedy increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> a battle of minds. congressman ryan and vice president widen go head to head in the first and only vice presidential decade. we dig into the facts and fiction ahead. >> malarkey complaining, laughless, shirtless, just a few of the top search items on google during last night's debate. we have more on the debate coming up this hour. >> shirtless. >> shirtless what, could be better than that. >> welcome back to "early start." >> it's friday, october 12th. there was plenty of passion and paul ryan and joe biden each got in a zinger or two but no knockout last night in the vice presidential debate. nobody had a bad night and nobody was too polite, that's to be sure. joe biden was the aggressor and paul ryan looking like the calm, collected counterpuncher. >> and here's how america scored it. a cnn orc poll taken right after the debate showed 48% of the voters who watched thought ryan won and 44% favored pieden. that's a statistical tie. seni
. >> jack kennedy increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> a battle of minds. congressman ryan and vice president widen go head to head in the first and only vice presidential decade. we dig into the facts and fiction ahead. >> malarkey complaining, laughless, shirtless, just a few of the top search items on google during last night's debate. we have more on the debate coming up this hour. >> shirtless. >> shirtless what, could be...
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. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're prosing. >> never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of the four guys on the ticket here. you've got mitt romney who starts his day in north carolina, hits virginia and meets up though with paul ryan in the evening for a joint event in ohio. joe biden, he's going to paul ryan's home state in wisconsin. president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> all right, chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the left of "the rachel maddow show" on msnbc and going into this joe biden needed to steady the ship and calm the democratic side. did he accomplish that? >> democrats are psyched that he had such a good night. yo
. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're prosing. >> never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of...
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. >> reporter: or ryan's attempt to compare the mitt romney tax plan to jack kennedy's. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: ryan was able to fire back with a few zingers of his own. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> reporter: republicans in the post debate spin room tried to make the case biden failed not only on style. >> quite frankly i was emrrassed for the vice president. i mean the laughs. we counted 82 times that joe biden interrupted paul ryan. >> reporter: but also on substance pointing to the vice president's response on whether there was adequate security before the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. >> and they wanted more security there. >> well, we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. >> we just had a major hearing on this. that was one of the heart -- the heart of the point was these requests went unheated. and obvi
. >> reporter: or ryan's attempt to compare the mitt romney tax plan to jack kennedy's. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: ryan was able to fire back with a few zingers of his own. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> reporter: republicans in the post...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> well that was interruption. that was also a put-down and vice president biden woos factually wrong. jfk, ronald reagan, george w. bush, all of them tax rates, and the end result was a an increase in money flowing to the treasury. revenues went up when tax rates went down. joe biden was wrong. jamie: stu varney doing fact check for us this morning. bill: last night the twitter verse was going nuts. the thing was going to explode if it went more. that line was the most tweeted comment last night. one minute after the line about jack kennedy, 58,000 tweets. that is what was going on out there. jamie: it is a talker. bill: we're just getting started. some on the right feeling vice president biden interrupted congressman ryan too much. we'll can the romney team this morning about all the morning after. jamie: sarah palin knows exactly what it is like to debate joe biden. ahead we'll get her reaction. bill: vice president's biden and laffer and facial expresses getting a lot of headlines. did ha help or hurt his campa
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> well that was interruption. that was also a put-down and vice president biden woos factually wrong. jfk, ronald reagan, george w. bush, all of them tax rates, and the end result was a an increase in money flowing to the treasury. revenues went up when tax rates went down. joe biden was wrong. jamie: stu varney doing fact check for us this morning. bill: last night the twitter verse was going nuts. the thing was going to explode if it went more. that...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> now that moment drew the most twitter traffic, 58,000 tweets out of a total of 3.5 million. big bird drew a quarter million tweets in last week's presidential debate. >> john dickerson is with us. john, did joe biden achieve what they wanted him to do in this debate which is to stop mitt romney's momentum? >> in part. what he did is give democrats something to cheer about. i mean joe biden was out there, hitting ryan and romney on everything that democrats said president obama had left on the table. in fact in one answer he did three of those attacks all in a single sentence. he came with a full set of weaponry and used everything he could. now does that stop the momentum of romney? what romney did was two things. he energized his base and reached out to swing voters. i'm not sure joe biden in that constantly laughing and interrupting did much with swing voters. may have even turned them off. swing voters will make their decision on the top of the ticket. if that's a down side one that won't matter. >> you just mentioned there's a lot of
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> now that moment drew the most twitter traffic, 58,000 tweets out of a total of 3.5 million. big bird drew a quarter million tweets in last week's presidential debate. >> john dickerson is with us. john, did joe biden achieve what they wanted him to do in this debate which is to stop mitt romney's momentum? >> in part. what he did is give democrats something to cheer about. i mean joe biden was out there, hitting...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the host of msnbc's rachel maddow show. coffee is on me. going s debate, everybody said the goal of joe biden was to steady the ship, calm the nerves on the democratic side. did he do that? >> absolutely. democrats are psyched joe biden had a great night. you said at the top there was no clear winner and that may be, but it was important for the democrats that paul ryan not be the clear winner. most democrats, i don't know about independents, but most democrats think joe biden won. >> i think there's no winner because of joe biden's style, his demeanor. if we learned
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt?...